The woodsman continues to chop, ignoring Carmen’s pleading. @Spider Dave Looking at her bio and her behavior at the campsite, I think it’s very clear that she came on to him. I hope I don’t need to list all of his crimes, but I don’t think he’s a rapist or an axe murderer. This is supposed to be fun. So how about, “In the forest with Psyche, my soul”? You can make things italics like this: Can you imagine having Darth Vader as your father? I don’t see the connection. Her apparition guides Torque throughout the games in an attempt to keep him on the right path. Also, whatever the tree represents, it almost certainly represents the same thing both times, which means if the tree is a phallic symbol then there must be a reason for the symbol of male sexuality to be depicted as having been cut down earlier in the sequence. Now I want to play the game even more, take a look at it through those eyes. Thanks for joining the discussion. I’d walk up to an object to look at it, and suddenly the camera would pull way back. Name: Robin Alias: Kid Red1 Profile Gender: Female Age: 9 Date of birth: October 13, 20002 Personal status Relatives: Rose (older sister)Ginger (older sister)Ruby (older sister)Carmen (older sister)Scarlet (older sister) Appearances Game: The Path Robin is one of the six playable characters in The Path. Step away from the all-inclusive resorts and busy nightclubs and make these stops instead. I would say that Carmen’s “wolf” isn’t so much the forester himself, but the fact that her first sexual experience was a stupid, reckless one-nighter with an older guy, which is not an uncommon outcome for the sort of girl I described above. In particular, Ruby has the playground and graveyard, while Ginger doesn’t. FREE Shipping on orders over $25 shipped by Amazon. All of this artistry is rather pointless if the lead-up makes the player uninterested in continuing. He doesn't need to be as wild as she is, but it wouldn't hurt. Or not. In any case, she and the campsite are present in all of the girls’ stories, even if the lumberjack himself is only present in Carmen’s story. I’m torn on two ideas about the wolf in this context. I guess I’m not the right person for this game…. Regardless, the general consensus is that Carmen met a woodsman who is either benevolent or else burdened only by the simple human flaw of having sex with an attractive young woman who repeatedly comes onto him even after he tried to ignore her for about five minutes solid, and Carmen then learned some very painful lessons about her misguided sexuality. He seemed powerful and dangerous but turned out to be impotent (not in a sexual way) and dismissive which cut Carmen off from the knowledge she seeks. It would have been very, very easy for him to appear threatening. I fail to see how literal horrible, violent death is about growing up. But I dont think shes that superficial. Thoughtless and short-sighted. They are aspects of one person, in whose mind these symbolic narratives are taking place, each representing this unseen person at some significant age/point of life when something impactful happened to her(/him?). But, I love psychological symbolism and a thought just occurred to me. They call him a The girl in white represents something which draws you away from things which may lose you your innocence. What kind of property investment do you need to have to get a place like that in your elderly years? If ever there was a single moment of total transformation, it was actually the moment of Carmen Kass' birth. Her wolf is the classic forester, the supposed hero of the Red Riding hood story. I also spent a lot of time bumping into random objects just to see what would happen. He keeps working. Here are 6 reasons why I forbid political discussions on this site. You don’t seriously read all two bazillion comments on every post, do you Shamus? Carmen is an ultimately tragic figure. For you. I definitely agree that the chopped down tree in the stagnant pool represents a loss of some kind, most likely Carmen’s lost virginity, with the water probably a representation of tears, matched with the sound of constant dripping. You can make things bold like this: I'm very glad Darth Vader isn't my father. @Zaxares 45: I think you’re being too literal. The Riviera Maya is one of Mexico’s hottest tourism draws. The Riviera Maya is one of Mexico’s hottest destinations, but there are still some off-the-beaten path spots that tourists haven’t yet discovered. I don’t think anything happened and I think he said no. More food for thought: the tree in the pool is whole if you go to g-ma’s house without encountering the wolf. It’ll be more than i reckon, i think waaaay too little of people (one of the many curses of being ego maniacal)! Some of the rooms’ symbolism is too sparse to mean much of anything, the fire room, for example. With the chair atop them it does take on a throne-like look but consider the possibility instead of a “seat of judgment” much like the raised dais that most judges sit atop in courtrooms. With spring break approaching, many travelers are going to be headed south to the popular tourist hotspots of Cancun, Playa Del Carmen and Tulum. She’s not the introspective sort, but just a spark of it could go a long way to helping her to find meaning in this mistake, and happiness later on. In this sense, Gramma’s house represents the dark place in people’s soul where you don’t like to go, to see things about yourself you’d rather not know. And taking her rooms one at a time and applying the most appropriate literary understanding sheds more light to me. To me the Red X / Carmen’s face thing ties into this, as it would make Carmen simply a “target” for him, an object to be used. To add a new country to the system, you would create a directory (let's use my_data as an example), and create a world.yml file inside it. Moving on. And it always had to do with sex. @Everyone: Following that statement, I do find this game suffers from the same problem that a lot of temporary art does and this tend to lead to two behaviors by the “simple masses” (of which I am a part): 1. I think, though, that there’s a lot of merit to Maldeus’ interpretation. Through this, though the GiW is constantly there. If this has already been pointed out I apologize. Some of the other girls did make my head spin. And as for X as target, it depends on how you look at things. Hmm, I interpreted things slightly differently on watching that ending on Youtube. This is done, as far as I can tell, to annoy the player. These in turn unlock extra scenes in the Grandma’s house. (Note that these things can happen in a slightly different order, depending on where you walk. Parasailing Over The Ocean. These were my two cents. Like I said, I don’t claim that my understanding is the only one. Allison Carmen holds a B.A. Then we see the seat of judgment, which stands atop a pile of mattresses, overlooking a pool of stagnant water (a once powerful thing rendered impotent) with chairs (symbolic of dismissal) and a cut-down tree. She flirts with him, swiping his hat and putting it on herself. Maybe the craving for male attention will fade now that she sees where it goes. Overall my impression was that Carmen wanted to be an ‘adult’ so badly that she didn’t think about what you have to give up to stop being a child. Peels me layer by layer. Also, the placement of the chair/throne/seat of judgment/thing is decidedly above both the chairs, the cut-down tree, and the pool of stagnant water. same goes for the men who wind up with them…. Mattresses can represent sexuality but they can also mean new responsibilities or duties. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I became immensely frustrated when the camera would suddenly develop a mind of its own. Another usually interesting blogger goes all Nice Guy(TM).”. Or if there were any reason at all to have objects you can’t interact with besides “ha ha, you ran to the girl in white and wasted your time”. At risk of sounding jaded, I can’t help but think something that engenders so many different interpretations (all of which could be correct) is essentially meaningless. Although she accepts the wisdom (the grown tree), the acceptance causes an identity crisis. During the spooky funhouse parade of disturbing imagery, we hear moaning, and it is not frightened or in pain or suffering but, you know, sex sounds. You don’t grow up if you are murdered. I’m not sure how to put it, but she’s a positive aspect of self. But the picture it paints is still the same.) Ocean parasailing is a hugely popular activity in Playa Del Carmen, with … Ruby’s soul which seeks destruction leads her to her own downfall. The self-esteem that girls have is ridiculously fragile, especially at the age Carmen is. I love discussing and deconstructing games, but you’re not doing that. And in retrospect, I think someone who used to be a Carmen is most likely to correctly interpret Carmen’s story and her wolf, because the story is decidedly intended to be viewed from her perspective. She’s just there. Did they have sex? Making the whole argument of “rape game THINK OF THE CHILDREN OH MAI GAWD!” moot and stupid. If the world is a symbolic representation of a repressed trauma, why does any of it need be literal? Again this game is clearly huge on psychology and symbolism, and from the way she hangs her head with her hands around her neck (which is a protective and defensive posture) along with the slow gait she adopts suggests she is feeling dejected, violated (because of the arms up around the head), and most definitely sad. X means no. 17-year old girls also don’t run around going oh I’m a woman nao so I’ll manipulate guys hah hah hah. As such, I view the GiW as..conscience? I feel sorry for them at thirty-seven. The woodsman cutting trees down while Carmen is watching and getting drunk may simply allude to witnessing a terrible event – the woodsman destroying the tree(s) – and feeling guilty that she couldn’t stop it. Obviously some of those new “duties” were of the sexual variety but they included much more than that. People do look at it closer but it is STILL too convoluted for anyone to get a clue what it is about and is therefore a failure anyway. Leaving behind Playa del Carmen’s tourist trail pays especially big rewards when it comes to food and drink. In my opinion I much prefer the theory one person had. You haven’t offered any reason why she’s tragic, or shared your own view of her story. It didn’t allude to any rape to me, but rather flirtation (the hat), followed by a sexual mistake (sleeping with the guy while drunk), and finally regret (the long walk in the rain). Or if the objects were in the same place every time. Rejection is a major player in the mental and emotional stability/growth of adolescents, and it can mess you up badly. The fire room. @Neriana: Fear which lurks around you whilst on the way towards the wolf to draw you back to the path, and which surfaces briefly whilst in the layer of the wolf before instantly retreating. #4 will amaze you. @Oddluck – I think you’ve got it with your first thought. To me, I think the audio symbolizes Carmen trying to reassert to herself that, in spite of having gone through some kind of unsettling experience with the woodsman, she’s still the same flirtatious, light-hearted girl she was before. Following her will lead you to various items and places that can trigger memories. Carmen may turn out all right in the long run. About Carmen's Life Path number. Neriana’s break down of the character felt as if that’s the story the creators were most trying to convey. You can quote someone like this: Darth Vader said
Luke, I am your father.
, Your email address will not be published. IS it really a game or just a glorified interactive movie? I did find some interesting food for thought in the presence of the blanket (quilt?) Of course that means that I have no hope in “getting” this game, since I would have no clue what any of it symbolizes. The entire Grandma’s House sequence for each girl is basically a nightmare. Less than 5 years ago were little children trying to figure out what made them and others happy. He doesn’t put an arm around her shoulder, he doesn’t even lean towards her. I’m still unlikely to play the game itself (the controls and sound of the game from the video made me wince), but I’m still enjoying the discussion we’re having about it. If you'd like to support him, you can do so via Patreon or PayPal. Triple points for Neriana’s second paragraph as well. they arent tragic figures, they are pathetic figures… and tend to wind up with precisely the kind of relationships they deserve. Which had nothing to do with deconstructing the game or discussion. Then again, she can’t be all bad if she leads you back to the path. Your analysis is as well written as always Shamus. One at a time, each girl is sent with only two instructions: go to Grandmother's house and stay on the path. She'll give them a little bit extra to look at too. Perhaps the Girl in White is the Individual’s ego or super-ego, trying to make sense of and/or coax her(/him? Maldeus: I read all comments on all posts through a common window in the admin section, so I don’t have to manually comb over old posts looking for new comments. But he never once gave her an unsettling look. He works on this site full time. When Carmen reaches the Camp Site, she will find her Wolf in the guise of a lumberjack or woodsman. Carmen’s soul going in and out of the tent is a metaphor for, erm, something or other, nudge nudge, wink wink. During your stay, you may want to do a little exploring in (and around) Playa del Carmen, one the region’s most … A path paved with wood, surrounded by fire, would, to extend the metaphor, basically be “walking on corpses” while surrounded by passion or redemption, or possibly a cleansing/redeeming passion. Could simply rejecting her possibly have caused Carmen to take such a blow to her self-esteem that her sub-conscious registers it as her being attacked with a lethal weapon? Haven’t played the game. @Mari: I don’t really think the game may be a literal world (even within itself). The “simply hungover” bit is sort of lame, don’t you think? Okay, fine, Shamus. She'll give them a little bit extra to look at too. I just threw the literalism in because I like extremeties and “it’s all literal” is certainly at the far end of the symbological spectrum. My first game I started with Carmen, since she was the most sexual of the six Reds. Anything that triggers and stimulates intelligent discussion has some worth IMO. What this means is a fixed or at least aerial camera and the inability to run. She’ll give them a little bit extra to look at too. Anyway, feel free to praise, harass or dismantle it as you will. Earlier this year, when the topic came up in conversation, my wife explained it to me. And from the old, familiar vantage point of a child, she can’t help but seeing the tree in the pool.